“Nima: Yeah. So we will shift now from the academic to the more advocacy side of this and so we will be speaking now with Les Bernal, National Director of Stop Predatory Gambling, a broad coalition that has filed lawsuits alongside progressive groups such as the Center for Popular Democracy, United for a Fair Economy and the Public Health Advocacy Institute. Les is going to join us in just a sec. Stay with us.”

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